Gaza: No Peace & No Way Out

Thursday, July 31, 2014

israel, palestine, gaza An Israeli soldier sits on top of a Merkava tank along the border between Israel and the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, on July 30, 2014, after returning from combat in the Palestinian enclave. (GIL COHEN MAGEN/AFP/Getty Images)

As Operation Protective Edge continues into its fourth week, Israel stands firmly behind Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the country's Defense Forces.

One recent poll found that more than 90 percent of Jewish Israelis believe Operation Protective Edge is justified, with just four percent believing the country has used excessive force against Gaza.

But yesterday, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon took a hard line with Israel, condemning an attack on a U.N. school that killed at least 16.

“Nothing is more shameful than attacking sleeping children,” the secretary-general told reporters during an official visit to San Jose, Costa Rica.

And while some in the international community have called for a cease-fire, Arab leaders have remained mostly silent, leaving Hamas isolated in the region.

Ambassador Ido Aharoni, Consul General of Israel in New York, says that Hamas is stuck in the past and can't see towards the future, while others contend that oppression of the Palestinians pre-dates Hamas, and misses the heart of the conflict.

Guests:

Ido Aharoni

Hosted by:

Todd Zwillich

Produced by:

Jillian Weinberger

Editors:

T.J. Raphael

Comments [12]

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Using civilians as Human Shields is a War Crime.

Hamas Spokesperson Encourages Use of Human Shield
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXZEzbT0H1s

Israel uses weapons to protect its people.
Hamass uses people to protect its weapons.

Hamass already established the relative value of their people.
1 Israeli, Gilad Shalit for 1,027 Palestinians and "activists".

Aug. 01 2014 01:04 PM
TheLandBelongs-Jews from On the mountain

Who forgot their history? The Jordanians walked into Israel's territory, tore down their Temple and built one for themselves. As the story goes, theirs will be torn down and the Jews will rebuild.
Remember, the Jordanians,who renamed themselves Palestinians in 1948 have never recognized the Israels and have NEVER been peaceful, They started this skirmish, which they obviously planned for many years by the amount of weapons stored in the tunnels. Time to go home.

Jul. 31 2014 10:18 PM

@Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

"blaming Israel for deaths that Hamass is responsible for is disingenuous."

Is it? The current invasion was started by the kidnap and killing of three teens that wasn't directed by Hamas. So far, 600 Palestinians have died for each of the kidnapped teens.

Collective punishment - bombing schools, power plants and hospitals can be considered collective punishment - is a violation of the Geneva Convention. Read it is a tactic more suitable to Nazis rather than the IDF.

I want the U.S. government to turn of the re-supply spigot. Then Bibi might show more restraint when his troops pull the trigger.

Jul. 31 2014 04:19 PM
Leona from Tiburon, CA

How can the state of Israel expect to survive based upon the subjpugation and suffering of an entire people? There needs to be a Truth and Reconciliation program where the Palestinian people themselves as individuals can publicly express what happened to them and their families since 1948. An impartial international panel of judges could then take all claims under advisement and determine fair compensation for each claim to be paid by the Israeli government. That route would be much more economical and defuse the increasing negative feelings against Israel and its extremely oppressive regime. The presently horrendous and seemingly intractable situation might then have a chance to improve. Instead of Israel needing to bomb out Palestine to remove the tunnels, Israel foul lift the blockade. Dies Israel want to live peacefully with mollified free Palestinians who have opportunities for education, travel, healthful life styles, or will Israel continue to try to exterminate them, committing war crimes. why not just change the name of Gaza to Dachau? It is not Hamas creating the intolerable circumstances that lead to utter despair where despite the apparent David and Goliath apparently inequality of military strengththe Palestinian people to endure such horrific bombardments from which Israel prevents them from having any possibility of escaping. I feel that the International community must condemn Israel' oppression of the Palestinian people. If Israel can not be just to the Palestinian generations since 1948 and into the future, I do not see how Israel can ever expect any peace.

Jul. 31 2014 03:53 PM
peter from ny

Why never any questions about the internationally condemned and illegal settlements which are forever expanding against all reason and international laws.

Jul. 31 2014 03:25 PM
Michael

What did Israel learn from the 2008-2009 war that they are putting into place during this war?

Jul. 31 2014 03:21 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Any European, African or Asian who is against brutal occupation and settlement, and lives in North America (Native American land)...

start packing, and don't forget to pay reparations to the indigenous Native American people.

Jul. 31 2014 01:55 PM
Eric from Ashland, Oregon

I encourage all to watch "Henry Siegman, Leading Voice of U.S. Jewry, on Gaza: "A Slaughter of Innocents" and "U.S. Jewish Leader Henry Siegman to Israel: Stop Killing Palestinians and End the Occupation" on DemocracyNow on 7/30 & 7/31 online.

http://www.democracynow.org/

The Takeaway is doing a fairer job than most, but the interview with the Israeli ambassador was full of blatant falsehoods about Hamas & Israel

Jul. 31 2014 01:29 PM
dlm

Where did the absurd notion that war is supposed to be fought by equal partners come from?? People go to war because each side believes they are right and the goal is to WIN. When countries actually won wars - say WWII, a true end came to that conflict. Since the notion that wars have to be fought "humanely" came about, we have wars with out. The result is more deaths over decades then would have been lost without the phony peace pauses.

Jul. 31 2014 01:26 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Since 160,000+ have died in fighting in Syria, that's Arabs killing Arabs,

blaming Israel for deaths that Hamass is responsible for is disingenuous.

Jul. 31 2014 12:26 PM
Jerrold Richards from Lyle, Washington

I am not persuaded that Zionism and Judaism are compatible. Zionism leads to monstrosities such as the collective punishment presently under way in Gaza, directly counter to the essential humane core of Judaism. For most of the past 2,000 years, Jewish communities worldwide, for example the Jewish community in Shanghai going back at least to 600AD, have generally prospered by coming to manageable terms with whatever local gang of hoods have declared themselves to be government. Zionism was pretty much forced on Judaism by the British Empire for its own nefarious ends. Well, it's not that simple, but a case can be made.

Now what. You've got me. Going back to Lithuania or wherever is not an option. I hope it is not defeatist to suggest that at least some Plan B thought might be given to the possibility that Israel as presently constituted is not going to make it over the long term.

Jul. 31 2014 12:25 PM
Michelangelo from Miami FL

If Hamas' plan is to get the Israelis to attack UN and civilian sites, why are the Israelis going along with the plan? Iron Dome is doing its job according to the low numbers of Israeli casualties. If the IDF really wanted to rid themselves of Hamas fighters and ordinance they'd send in troops to these locations and weed them out. Long range and aerial bombardment is simply revenge (eye for an eye) attacks. Israel's government and military seem to be appeasing certain parts of their population with large displays of revenge killing.

Jul. 31 2014 09:31 AM

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