New York Gov. David Paterson on the Proposed Islamic Center in Manhattan

Friday, August 20, 2010

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 Pedestrians stand outside of the proposed site for the Cordoba Initiative Mosque and Cultural Center which would be blocks from Ground Zero on August 18, 2010 in New York City. Pedestrians stand outside of the proposed site for the Cordoba Initiative Mosque and Cultural Center which would be blocks from Ground Zero on August 18, 2010 in New York City. (Spencer Platt/Getty)

The 9th anniversary of the September 11 attacks is coming up next month – and Ground Zero is once again a center of religious controversy. The current flashpoint is a planned $100 million Islamic cultural center and mosque, scheduled to be built by private investors two blocks from the World Trade Center site. Last week, President Obama weighed in, saying Muslims have the right to build the religious center; many Republicans have sharply criticized the plans.

Amidst the controversy New York’s Governor David Paterson, has said moving the proposed 'Park 51 Center' to a location away from Ground Zero would be “magic moment” for him.

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Governor David A. Paterson

Comments [11]

I predict this might be the next symbolic issue the GOP might grab on to in order to force a cultural war of fear. the new communism.
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Aug. 22 2010 10:51 PM
cleanupnynow from Albany

David Paterson’s offer of an alternate site for their development is a blatant violation of the First Amendment of the Constitution. It seems that Paterson appears to be forgetting that his help might be a violation of basic American rights. Helping a religious group build a house of worship is exactly what the First Amendment seeks to prevent. Such a move also sets a dangerous precedent.

Hence, it is a huge mistake for David Paterson to get involved with the Mosque. David Paterson has no ability whatsoever to improve a situation - he only makes matters worse.

Unfortunately, for New Yorker's, David Paterson has no ability to govern. In fact, David Paterson never had any ability to govern. “The Democratic Conference: Organizational and Operational Structure Report” is an eyewitness account of Paterson’s DYSFUNCTIONAL governing nature while Senate Minority Leader.

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM110_demreportfinal.html

Paterson’s office was criticized for PATRONAGE, LACK OF LEADERSHIP, INDECISIVENESS and INFIGHTING. Those interviewed in the report indicated that its chief of staff the disorganized Michael Jones-Bey had no management skills, was neglectful in his duties – often boozing it up with staff and coming to the office with a hangover - and should be relieved of his position.

Amazingly, for running such a DYSFUNCTIONAL CHAOTIC office, the disorganized Michael Jones-Bey was hand picked by David Paterson to mismanage the Division of Minority & Women Owned Business Development (MWBE) at Empire State Development Corporation.

Aug. 20 2010 11:33 PM
dwighthhuth from Ohio

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf

"He's devoted much of his career to working closely with Christians, Jews and secular leaders to advance interfaith understanding. He's scolded his own religion for being in some ways in the "Dark Ages." Yet he's also accused the U.S. of spilling more innocent blood than al-Qaida, the terrorist network that turned the World Trade Center, part of the Pentagon and four hijacked airplanes to apocalyptic rubble. "

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"Yet he's also accused the U.S. of spilling more innocent blood than al-Qaida, the terrorist network that turned the World Trade Center, part of the Pentagon and four hijacked airplanes to apocalyptic rubble."

The key words that we are looking at here America is that he acusess the U.S. of spilling more innocent blood than Al-Quaeda. We must first ask this guy to specify which part of the world that he is referring to when he states that America has killed more innocents than the terrorists have. The last time I checked the Taliban which he is siding with because he he is providing a shield for have killed more innocents in cold blood based on their belief's which the facility that he wants to build is a representation of his belief in what the Taliban and Al-Queada networks are doing in the Middle East otherwise he would have denounced the actions of the Taliban and Al-Quaeda and supported what America was doing in the Middle East to show America that he was on the side of America and not shielding his Islamic buddies.

He is a terrorist until he can pinpoint locations of specifics instead of generalized areas of the world to promote his viewpoint that America is willfully killing innocents more than his bloodthirsty friends in the Middle East are.

Who blows up weddings and funerals killing hundreds at a time? Is it American's? I don't think so. We know who is doing the killing and who is providing the shield for them to gain access into this country.

Aug. 20 2010 07:06 PM
tony farina from Florida

America should have fredom of Religion.

Aug. 20 2010 05:23 PM

Paterson needs to stand up for something. He’s taking the easy way out. This is a much much bigger issue than it seems. The city is engaging in conversations that are blatant and accepted discrimination. That's a pretty scary and disappointing fact. Paterson should be taking this as an opportunity to speak on issues of equality and religious freedom. Much like Obama did with his early speech on racism. He needs to be a leader and an example. Don’t just make suggestions, make an action, governor.

Aug. 20 2010 03:16 PM
Elis Beddau

//Obviously the leader has no influence on the followers. //

You're wrong, because obviously sometimes a leader's teachings WILL affect the behavior of her/his followers, even generations later. Sometimes the teachings work, and sometimes they don't. And just because they sometimes don't work does NOT mean that the nature of the leader's teachings and the example of the her/his behavior and the behavior of the immediate disciples who studied under her/him isn't significant.

Aug. 20 2010 12:52 PM
Elis Beddau

//Christianity has taken so many lives. Who cares if it was Jesus or the pope that directed it.//

But Islam is still the most violent religion, and the ONLY religion whose founding figures went around committing massacres, conquests, hegemonization & forced conversions (of Zoroastrians & pagans). (http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/topic.php?uid=22133103984&topic=15246) and Tusicisny, Andrej. (2004, Jul.). “Civilizational Conflicts: More Frequent, Longer, and Bloodier?" Journal of Peace Research, 41(4), pp. 485-498. Retrieved from JSTOR database.

“This article examines… on the basis of a dataset derived from the Uppsala Conflict Data Project...The majority of intercivilizational conflict-years during the post-Cold War period have involved Islamic groups." (485).

“Regarding the warfare between civilizations, the Islamic civilization remains the most conflict-prone. During the Cold War period, the intercivilizational conflict-years involving Islamic groups constituted 27.8% of all conflict-years and during the post-Cold War period 25.4%. The number of conflict-years within the Islamic civilization rose from 12.6% to 22.5% likewise" (495).

“But the strife between the Islam and the West remains marginal (3.5% of all conflict- years)… These results are consistent with the findings of Fox (2001), Russett, Oneal & Cox (2000), de Soysa (2002), and Roeder (2003) suggesting that 'the Islamic civilization is not conflicting in particular with the West'" (496).

Aug. 20 2010 11:11 AM
fred

elis you are one bigoted person aren't you.
Christianity has taken so many lives. Who cares if it was Jesus or the pope that directed it.
Obviously the leader has no influence on the followers. or there would b=have been no inquisition no crusades. no wars in Europe etc etc etc.

Aug. 20 2010 11:02 AM
Elis Beddau

The earliest Muslims didn't forecefully convert Peoples of the Book (Jews & Christians), but they did forecefully convert non Peoples of the Book (Zoroastrians & pagans).

Aug. 20 2010 10:17 AM
Elis Beddau

The earliest Muslims didn't forcefully convert Jews & Christians (Peoples of the Book), but they did forecefully convert Zoroastrians and pagans (non Peoples of the Book).

Aug. 20 2010 10:14 AM
Elis Beddau

Islam is the only religion whose founding figures went around massacring, conquering, hegemonizing and forecefully converting people. All religious moderates can say to extremists in their midst "But our founding figures didn't do that!" Moderate Muslims, however, can't, because their founding figures did do those horrible things. And that's why Muslim communities in the West are dominated by radicals (http://intelligencesquaredus.org/index.php/past-debates/islam-is-dominated-by-radicals/), because moderate Muslims can't win that debate.

Aug. 20 2010 10:11 AM

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