Free Gun Training for Teachers

Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Today President Obama will announce his new agenda on gun control, a response to last month's deadly school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. Some states, like New York, are already pushing for stricter laws on gun ownership, but other communities are moving in the opposite direction.

The Buckeye Firearms Foundation, headquartered in Delaware, Ohio, just launched an initiative called the Armed Teacher Training Program, which offers weapons and medical training to teachers and other school staff at no cost. More than 1,200 people with concealed-carry permits have already signed up, according to Jim Irvine, president of the Buckeye Firearms Foundation. 

Patricia Frost-Brooks, president of the Ohio Education Association, is concerned about arming teachers and other school employees. She argues that, even with training, guns will do little to ensure school safety. 

Guests:

Patricia Frost-Brooks and Jim Irvine

Produced by:

Joe Hernandez

Comments [12]

Multiple Approach Taker from Manhattan

It's obvious that we will never improve anyone's sense of security without taking some actions. What is it with these stupid unions saying they support educators, yet they refuse to support the (small minority) of them who seek training and licensing to carry a concealed handgun? God forbid 10% of teachers (well, probably triple that in Texas) might take up a firearm, that would turn the school into some kind of military garrison? They should at least have that option available to them especially since taking said option away is blatantly illegal under the 2nd amendment. Unions are supposed to stand up for your rights, that includes the rights you might not agree with!

With that said, every single transfer of gun ownership, public, private, or otherwise, should be linked to a federal database, the "no gun" database (analogous to the "no fly" database). That way we can keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, violent felons, and paranoid schizophrenics. Selling to a person on the list means manslaughter charges for the seller if the buyer commits a murder with the gun.

Jan. 19 2013 01:11 PM
Larry Fisher from Brooklyn, N.Y.

I surrender... guns are coming into our schools. Maybe the British should have won the war of Independence; winning made us gun crazy. Ironically, The British Cops don't carry guns...

We are a nutty, nutty society... I wonder if a lotteries around the country, which help pay for education will have a new lottery to pay for the guns in schools.

Jan. 16 2013 04:07 PM
Paula

This is who we hear from on this day when these proposals are put forward by Biden & Obama? More gun lobby psychopaths?! I don't mind hearing from the other side, as long as they are called on their lies, but to FRAME this discussion this way! Shameful.

Jan. 16 2013 03:20 PM
michael rock from Yorktown

She's right in that it's important to provide a safe environment. I am not anti gun but honestly, I wouldn't want my kids teachers carrying. I am happy enough with a school police officer however they can't stop the insane attacker the likes of which hit Sandy Hook. Nor will metal detectors (you don't think that stops anyone who means to kill you, do you?) And Sandy Hook did have a lock down, sign in system just as our area schools do. Those "locked" doors don't stand a chance against someone who means to break in (with our without a gun. I think a good sized brick would do it.) We need to get real about these conversations and stop the knee jerk reactions on both sides of this argument.

Jan. 16 2013 03:18 PM
oscar from ny

...I would also put metal detectors in every school like they have them here at some schools,..have a DMV kind of office for every weapon, every weapon should be accounted for,..have the crime lab at the FBI study and share more for serial killers profiles with therapist...make more diversions for kids after school programs should be high priority..make teachers and students put a stigma on these killers, seems that kids hate not being cool etc..

Jan. 16 2013 01:53 PM
James Ledbetter from Portland

Please stop the lies. THERE WAS an ARMED guard at Columbine. IT DID NOT HELP!

Jan. 16 2013 01:20 PM
Cleve from Orlando

Arming teachers sounds good until you have a workplace incident where the teacher is the shooter. A multifaceted approach is needed, gun control and more mental health services.

Jan. 16 2013 12:22 PM
Scott from Boston

I find this "good guys" vs. "bad guys" logic to exhibit a disturbing lack of critical thinking. Furthermore, as a social studies teacher, the hypocrisy of lecturing about subjects like Dr. King and his advocacy for nonviolence while simultaneously carrying a loaded gun on my hip leaves me questioning our responsibility as educators.

Jan. 16 2013 12:02 PM
dlmc from Brooklyn

Apparently 1200 of Frost-Brooks members are interested in receiving training. Did she survey her members?

Jan. 16 2013 11:54 AM
unkerjay from Puget Sound, WA

Here's an idea. So the saying goes:

"When you only have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail."

How about we stop looking at this problem solely, primarily through
the lens of the NRA? Maybe broaden our horizons as to the possibilities?

Maybe then, the ONLY solution to violence would not be a gun, more guns,
better armed, well trained, fortified facilities.

Or should those of us who choose not to follow that path be required to
sign waivers?

Jan. 16 2013 10:53 AM
unkerjay from Puget Sound, WA

For some strange reason more guns, fortified buildings is viewed as a possible answer without even considering (for those who believe in rights) the rights of those of us who may not want to live in a fort or own a gun or for that matter without even so much as considering the potential downside of more rather than fewer guns might have on the incidence of gun violence overall or collecting ANY data for purposes of considering said possibilities to avoid reaching undesirable conclusions, one can only surmise that the end goal is perhaps not safety at all.

But...

I digress.

Instead, let us arm every child from birth, teach them survival 101, marksmanship and close combat skills. Whatever their career path in life, they will go forward much better prepared to survive the odd assault.

I know. I know. TEACHERS. And when arming teachers proves not to be enough?

Jan. 16 2013 10:37 AM
Angel from Miami, FL

This is an easy fix: a cop at every school. Along with security procedures where visitors have passes and doors are locked, this should be the basic setup for every school. In cases where faculty and students are slow to react to the sound of gunfire, a trained law enforcement officer could simultaneously recon the situation and call for backup if necessary.

Gun makers can be legislated to integrate a unique alloy in firearm construction that could be isolated by some new kind of gun detector.

Jan. 16 2013 09:33 AM

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