The Beginning of the End for Occupy Wall Street?

Monday, November 14, 2011

A murder in Oakland, a rape in Philadelphia, and a TB outbreak in Atlanta. It has not been a good weekend for Occupy encampments across the country. Meanwhile, at the original camp in New York's Zuccotti Park, an illness that's being called the "Zuccotti lung" has broken out amongst protesters. With winter looming just around the corner, might this be the beginning of the end for Occupy Wall Street?

National Review writer Charles C.W. Cooke, certainly thinks so. However, Alon Ben-Meir, professor of international relations at the Center for Global Affairs at New York University, thinks the movement is just getting started.

Guests:

Alon Ben-Meir and Charles C.W. Cooke

Comments [9]

David Cole from Denver

According to their name it's "Occupy Wall Street" not "Occupy to destroy public Parks at Civic center" I am of the democratic persuasion and truely believe in all our consitutional rights. There is a difference between the right to assemble to protest and moving in and damaging beautiful parks. They should stay on point.

Nov. 15 2011 07:32 AM
Gail from Connect

How much crime and poor hygiene is there in NYC outside OWS? Probably more per person.

Free speech has no time limits. The listener who thought it was a good thing it was cleared out because he didn't like the drumming has his values in the wrong place....but then he works on Wall Street.

Nov. 15 2011 07:12 AM

The Occupiers will come back. It's interesting that people keep asking if they've accomplished anything. Corporate media is now talking about the obscene income disparity plaguing this country. Everybody 'knew' about this, but nobody was seriously talking about it. We are now. Thank you Occupiers!

Nov. 15 2011 06:25 AM
listener

Sorry to offend but doesn't the media have a minimum responsibility to put aside politics and inform their audience about a possible public safety hazard. Perhaps if the media did that earlier and held the Occupy movement to a higher standard these scenes could have been avoided and the movement would have gained more legitimacy.
If the media in a free society is not there to keep politicians and activists honest than they will not be honest. It's human nature. Thanks

Nov. 14 2011 11:30 AM
amalgam from NYC by day, NJ by night

It's just the end of the beginning for OWS...who knows what form the movement will take. The cat's out of the bag amongst the general public that the United States has been brought to a historically bad place, largely because much of the public and its government have permitted the wealthy "elites" to write policy that benefit despite hurting the plight vast majority of the populace (the rightwing/Tea Party-types always like to pretend that they created the term elites when it has always been aimed at the wealthy, powerful few, not cultural elites).

@ Jack - Don't be bothered by "listener," he's always posting with his myopic, limited rightwing views. Bully for him, it's his right, it's just that he doesn't often get anything correct.

Nov. 14 2011 10:52 AM
Jack from Minneapolis

National Review might be more trustworthy if it weren't written on such a blatantly sophomoric level.

How brave of "listener" from nowhere to identify him/herself - bravery on the order of those profiles in courage listener apparently admires, chicken hawks George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich, Carl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, etc., who, to quote Cheney, "had better things to do" than fight in Viet Nam (or elsewhere) - like lining their pockets with Wall St.-derived lucre.

"Sweet and sentimental coverage"? Get real, listener. It took weeks for OWS to get any coverage at all from the right-controlled mainstream media, then to progress from the snide and "snarky", to what passes for balanced coverage today, although they're always on the lookout for a chance to poke fun - just your kind of gig.

"Evidence of hate speech and extremism"? I thought OWS was the topic, not the Republican candidates for President. Disease outbreaks - as in plural? as in confirmed disease? Growing body count - as in the Viet Nam? Your imagination is fevered indeed, listener; get the help you so obviously need.

Nov. 14 2011 09:53 AM
listener

Finally.
I supposed the lengthy rap sheet of hundreds of arrests, disease outbreaks, growing body count, serious criminal offenses and on-going police investigations not to mention evidence of hate speech and political extremism was getting just to big for "unbiased" journalists to ignore. "Boiling mad" indeed and mad in the full sense of the word.
The hypocrisy hit a fever pitch when a program that ignored the criminal and digesting behavior of OWS while giving them sweetly sentimental coverage is suggesting the National Review cannot be trusted? How about those right-wing mayors and city officials in Portland, San Francisco, Berkeley, Oakland, Philadelphia and NYC who want to move against their Occupy encampments and stop the "progressive" punishment of local businesses and citizens?

Occupy protesters are "people who are extremely unhappy with the system" but are they demonstrating what "system" they want to replace it with?
Is this is a case of Marxists "seeing whatever they want to see" and holding up their fantasy of revolution like a tattered and stained security blanket?

"Nice snarky comment"
The left always claims not be snarky....and sarcastic.

Nov. 14 2011 08:45 AM
Jack from Minneapolis

You ask a National Review writer about Occupy and expect what? A balanced view? How about putting "Occupy is eating itself" C.C.W. Cooke (did you detect faint filip of pleasure coming from Cooke as he said this?) head to head with Matt Taibbi? As an epidemiologist, I suspect that TB, other unspecified lung ailments, and illness in general will be found among Occupiers in proportions roughly equivalent to those in the background populations in which they find themselves.

Nov. 14 2011 08:24 AM
Patti Robinson from Long Island New York

There are all kinds of crimes and illness across the world on any given day and for some reason anything negative at Occupations gets media coverage. At the same time what's positive doesn't get media coverage. My opinion is that the the Occupy Movement is an inspiration of world solidarity and gives hope to so many struggling people around this country. The media and government can try to silence it. My opinion of the government and the media HAS changed though ... my opinion about the media and government has become much more negative.

Nov. 14 2011 07:53 AM

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