Fact Checking the Health Care Debate

Wednesday, September 02, 2009

Our health care roundtable discussions are sparking debate. One guest on Tuesday's show made a startling assertion: that the care her sick son received in the United States was far superior than the attention he would have gotten in Canada or England, a statement which jumpstarted the conversation among our listeners. To see just how America's health care system really stacks up against other countries, (and to check on yesterday's guest's assertion) we called Uwe Reinhardt. The Princeton professor of economics and public affairs has done extensive work comparing international health care systems.

Guests:

Uwe Reinhardt

Contributors:

Christopher Johnson

Comments [9]

joram

Just a further follow up, did you also forget to mention that Lori Roman was formerly of the Bush Admin Office of Faith Based Initiatives. Did you think that was irrelevant?

Sep. 03 2009 03:01 AM
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joram

Your segment still has no relationship to "journalism". First, who is Lori Roman? How did she get on the show? She was obviously a scheduled guest. But she's been on Beck and other Fox shows. While this doesn't make her instantly not credible, it does show she has an agenda. FACT CHECK! I want to know the real facts about her story comparing her son's treatment and her father having his antibiotic infusion pulled out of his arms by a medicare doctor. Your Wed guest points out how poisonous the debate has become - IN LARGE PART BY INCOMPETENT JOURNALISTS - LIKE THE TAKEAWAY.

Sep. 03 2009 02:33 AM
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Patrick Carroll

Kari: Ireland has the same scheme via something called VHI - Voluntary Health Insurance. If you don't buy it, and get sick, you get put on a government waiting list for treatment and eventually get treated, or die. If you do buy it, depending on how many "units" you buy, you can get utterly top-notch treatment, at the best hospitals. So, it's more like a betting system. If you're willing to "bet" you're not going to get sick, you don't buy VHI. If you want to hedge a "bet" you buy some number of units. This is apparently not a planned option for the US. We are eventually to go with the government-only option: When you get sick you wait for treatment and eventually get it, or die.

Sep. 02 2009 10:37 PM
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kari

Yes, US private insurance to UK public -- US wins. But people in the UK can also have private insurance. And UK doctors are allowed to have a part-time private practice. That is why there can be a long wait for specialist but if you have private insurance you can breeze right in. What the UK does not have is 50 million people going without basic healthcare. I love that your guest did not know the cost of her insurance because she didn't pay for it. I pay for mine and it is 10% of my income. Every year I get hit with a huge increase and need to search for a cheaper and less comprehensive plan. If my son gets cancer I will be paying $20K out of pocket before insurance kicks in, who knows what it will be next year or if I'll even be able to afford insurance.

Sep. 02 2009 04:34 PM
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mary

I WANT a public option and so sick of people pretending competition isn't important. People are so opposed to change.

Sep. 02 2009 11:07 AM
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Deborah Mamawala

Speaking from personal experience. My in-laws are legal permanent residents from India for whom my husband and I cannot afford health care (approx. $10,000 per year out of pocket). My mother-in-law's sister lives in Britain and just had an angioplasty after experiencing some minor physical symptoms. By the way, she's 80 years old so clearly there's no "wait listing" or rationing of care based on age. Meanwhile, my husband & I hold our breath in hopes that his parents (76 & 77) don't need any medical care !

Sep. 02 2009 08:30 AM
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adamehirsch

Joram -- the segment is specifically in response to yesterday's guest's assertions about her son. Take a listen and let us know what you think!

Sep. 02 2009 07:47 AM
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Keith Erskine

Dear John - I'm really have to call you out on the softball questions you tossed Uwe Reinhardt today. Your previous guest used personal experience to make a generalizaion - ok. But then you ask Uwe "do you think she said that because she had an agenda?" Uwe response was that "...she should stick to the facts." without offering facts of his own.

Well here's some facts which you can Google right now: cancer survivability in the US, on aggregate, is higher than any country (63%) vs. the UK (48% - 56% depending where you live) or Canada (61%). And why is the US better - we do more diagnostic tests (i.e. pap tests, mammograms, PSA levels). And gee whiz - we do it without a public option.

Sep. 02 2009 07:46 AM
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joram

Can't we first find out if your 'guest's' propaganda on Tuesday was true. Do you guys actually do journalism? Or are you the entertainment show you appear to be?

Sep. 02 2009 07:35 AM
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