In House, Health Care Reform Squeaks Past

After a squeaker in the House, what next in the Senate?

Monday, November 09, 2009

Late in the evening Saturday, 219 Democrats and one Republican voted to pass the House version of health care reform, squeaking the historic bill past and sending the debate on to the Senate. For a look at the wrangling necessary to get the contentious legislation passed, we talk with Trudy Lieberman, contributing editor at the Columbia Journalism Review and healthcare blogger for CJR.org, along with our correspondent in Washington, Todd Zwillich.

Guests:

Trudy Lieberman and Todd Zwillich

Comments [4]

MK Ultra

I know the insurance companies are celebrating but are we the sheeple supposed to be happy about this?

Nov. 09 2009 07:14 PM
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cheadlee

: historical: as a : famous or important in history <historic battlefields> b : having great and lasting importance <a historic occasion> c : known or established in the past <historic interest rates> d : dating from or preserved from a past time or culture <historic buildings> <historic artifacts>

Thanks for the comment, Charles. Historic refers to a significant event in the past, with lasting effects. It does not confer any value judgments.

Nov. 09 2009 06:17 PM
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Charles

Celeste Headlee used the term "historic" to describe this vote. The same word was used this morning on the Diane Rehm Show.
"Historic," I presume, is intended to cnfer some favor on the vote. To imply that the vote was a positive thing, that will be broadly important, and decisive for policy, for years to come. And that is a virtual certainty to be untrue. The Senate will never, ever, agree to the significant provisions in this bill. This vote is just a minor way-station on the way to a Conference Committee. So what about this vote was "Historic"? Why use that term at all, Celeste, unless of course you really were trying to editorial ize your personal favor on the House bill?

Nov. 09 2009 10:55 AM
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Ed Helmrich

The Stupak Amendment was just a continuation of the Hyde Amendment, not more: if the government subsidizes health plans, and these plans pay for abortions, then tax payer money is being used to pay for abortions. The Hyde Amendment said that federal or tax funds could not be used for abortion (70% of Americans agree), this just keeps it in place. The only difference is that the Hyde Amendment had to be renewed each year.

Nov. 09 2009 08:59 AM
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